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Message: <blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 3170786" data-attributes="member: 1164">Wow, that is pretty bad. It can be usefull, but the fact BAB is a factor really balances it out. I agree with the DM on this one. Wotc added too much to PA in 3.5    Wow, that is pretty cheesy. If you are fireballing or lighningbolting the foes, I could see the DM declaring the foe's gear not surviving attacks the npcs don't, but since i have a hunch your party is not, the BS stink is pretty strong.You were KO’ed, asking the DM rather than telling the PCs may had been a better idea.  The 3rd level flaming arrow spell could have done that effect <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/sovelior_sage/spellsFtoG.html#flame-arrow" target="_blank">http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/sovelior_sage/spellsFtoG.html#flame-arrow</a> . Or were those arrows wrapped with oilrags and lit aflame?The level 7 sounds like a foe that is supposed to be driven off with concentrated firepower It could have been a +1 flaming scimitar that the bad guy’s 12th level cleric overlord hit with a greater magic weapon an hour before. That is exactly how overrun is supposed to work. Woct nerfed it right after 3.5 was released to prevent people from charging past allies, which wotc desired to taker away from combatants. It is a fine maneuver and exactly the way overrunning should work IMHO. 3E gave rogues way too many ways to get sneak attack, but that is going a bit too far since from my experience, a homebrewed magic system is often used to deny rogues magical ways to get sneak attack. What “flavor text”? High winds, swaying planks and crashing waves are not ‘flavor text’.   I can’t stand DMPCs. Absolutely hate them. I made the mistake of having one a decade ago and have resolved never to again.</blockquote>

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