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<blockquote data-quote="HeapThaumaturgist" data-source="post: 3176583" data-attributes="member: 12332"><p>I wasn't saying antagonize the GM.</p><p></p><p>I was saying that the GM is a rube and if you're stuck playing with a rube then you're going to have to go down the same path.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I figure the GM will like that style MUCH MORE than the one Tak is using now. Far from him saying: "Enough, sirrah, thou hast offended mine honor!" he's going to clap his hands and do a bizzare little dance and dive in.</p><p></p><p>I'm saying that since he's disenfranchised in the rules its time to play outside of the rules and ham up the porktacular style that the GM has adopted. And, if the party gets TPKed, then that's fine and it's on the GMs head ... </p><p></p><p>BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL HAPPEN</p><p></p><p>This guy isn't going to let his precious story go by the wayside, he's going to fudge things around so that the PCs win. It sounds like he's fudging things around when the PCs are winning too handily, making up new rules he won't show anybody, providing the badguys with superior weapons that "go away" via plot oddities. If Tak stops TRYING to be effective, then the GM is going to stop defeating him ... if Tak decides to be INEFFECTIVE then the GM is going to provide him with the tools for victory.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying walk in with a chip on your shoulder and do your best to make everybody have a miserable time ... I'm saying to the bizzare stuff the GM obviously WANTS. I figure if he doesn't try to get Sneak Attack and instead tosses a bottle or a rock, the GM is going to fudge the damage up. If he tosses a hogshead of sewage on the badguy, the GM is going to go into convulsions trying to think up excellently cinematic results for it. In D&D, you wouldn't go trying to dump the chamber pot on the badguy ... more effective to hit him in the face with an axe ... but if the GM is going to break the rules and make up BS where you've got no hope of actually winning by hitting the guy in the face with an axe, then you can't actually do any worse by dumping the poo on him ... zero sum. The poo water is probably going to be MORE EFFECTIVE because it plays into the GM's little fantasy land.</p><p></p><p>Think of it in an Eastern sort of way ... do not apply direct pressure, divert the opponent's motive force. As he attacks you, step to the side and trip him with his momentum. The GM has blunted your ability to be effective within the rules, so trip him with his own momentum ... Grasshopper.</p><p></p><p>--fje</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HeapThaumaturgist, post: 3176583, member: 12332"] I wasn't saying antagonize the GM. I was saying that the GM is a rube and if you're stuck playing with a rube then you're going to have to go down the same path. Personally, I figure the GM will like that style MUCH MORE than the one Tak is using now. Far from him saying: "Enough, sirrah, thou hast offended mine honor!" he's going to clap his hands and do a bizzare little dance and dive in. I'm saying that since he's disenfranchised in the rules its time to play outside of the rules and ham up the porktacular style that the GM has adopted. And, if the party gets TPKed, then that's fine and it's on the GMs head ... BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL HAPPEN This guy isn't going to let his precious story go by the wayside, he's going to fudge things around so that the PCs win. It sounds like he's fudging things around when the PCs are winning too handily, making up new rules he won't show anybody, providing the badguys with superior weapons that "go away" via plot oddities. If Tak stops TRYING to be effective, then the GM is going to stop defeating him ... if Tak decides to be INEFFECTIVE then the GM is going to provide him with the tools for victory. I'm not saying walk in with a chip on your shoulder and do your best to make everybody have a miserable time ... I'm saying to the bizzare stuff the GM obviously WANTS. I figure if he doesn't try to get Sneak Attack and instead tosses a bottle or a rock, the GM is going to fudge the damage up. If he tosses a hogshead of sewage on the badguy, the GM is going to go into convulsions trying to think up excellently cinematic results for it. In D&D, you wouldn't go trying to dump the chamber pot on the badguy ... more effective to hit him in the face with an axe ... but if the GM is going to break the rules and make up BS where you've got no hope of actually winning by hitting the guy in the face with an axe, then you can't actually do any worse by dumping the poo on him ... zero sum. The poo water is probably going to be MORE EFFECTIVE because it plays into the GM's little fantasy land. Think of it in an Eastern sort of way ... do not apply direct pressure, divert the opponent's motive force. As he attacks you, step to the side and trip him with his momentum. The GM has blunted your ability to be effective within the rules, so trip him with his own momentum ... Grasshopper. --fje [/QUOTE]
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