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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 1139344" data-attributes="member: 545">Tycage,When a game designer uses a peculiar wording it is evidence that they do not mean what a triivally simpler and shorter version of the sentence would mean.&nbsp; Conclusive evidence, it is not.&nbsp; But it is evidence none the less.&nbsp; I understand that sometimes game designers muddy the issue by adding in flavor text intended to clarify things.&nbsp; It does not seem to be the case here.Why say &quot;mithral armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations&quot; when they could say &quot;mithral armors are one category lighter than normal&quot;?No offense intended, but if you are going to assert the longer phrase means exactly the same thing as the shorter, the burden of proof is really on you.&nbsp; Your argument seems to boil down to the belief that the game designers really meant &quot;with respect to everything including armor proficiency feats&quot; but they just forgot all about the armor proficiency feats when came to actually writing the rules about mithral.You may even be right.&nbsp; But do you have any evidence?.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 1139344, member: 545"] Tycage, When a game designer uses a peculiar wording it is evidence that they do not mean what a triivally simpler and shorter version of the sentence would mean. Conclusive evidence, it is not. But it is evidence none the less. I understand that sometimes game designers muddy the issue by adding in flavor text intended to clarify things. It does not seem to be the case here. Why say "mithral armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations" when they could say "mithral armors are one category lighter than normal"? No offense intended, but if you are going to assert the longer phrase means [i]exactly[/i] the same thing as the shorter, the burden of proof is really on you. Your argument seems to boil down to the belief that the game designers really meant "with respect to everything including armor proficiency feats" but they just forgot all about the armor proficiency feats when came to actually writing the rules about mithral. You may even be right. But do you have any evidence? . [/QUOTE]

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