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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Silverglass" data-source="post: 1139503" data-attributes="member: 14071">But that is not bourne out by the figures in the armour table, Banded Mail weighs less than chainmail but has a higher armour check penalty. The one concept that does run through the table is that the less flexible armours have higher penalties. This seems reasonable in that the skills to which the penalty applies are those that generally require mobility and flexibility. Light armours are very flexible, medium armours moderately flexible (or where inflexible like a breastplate this only covers a portion of the body) and the heavy armours cover the body with an inflexible layer. IMO opinion this links both Armour Check penalty and Max Dex Mod to the flexibility of the armour rather than the weight. The Armour proficencies can not be classed as a limitation strictly speaking as having them or not having them does not prevent the use of the armour (but applies a penalty, which is different from a limit), whereas the restriction in the Tumble skill definitely is a limitation.</blockquote>