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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 8190161" data-attributes="member: 29398">That's a start.&nbsp; Me, I use a d20; if the aim doesn't need to be fine-tuned (e.g. a fireball into open space with nothing but enemies in the area) than usually anything over about 5 is enough to pretty much put it right where you want.&nbsp; Lower than this, down to and including 2, means you missed by a bit and either I or the player will roll a d8 for direction.&nbsp; On a 1, things can get interesting - maybe the fireball bead wrecked on some obstacle en route, or the lightning bolt didn't bounce* quite like you expected, or you flat-out misjudged the distance; but most often it means you either missed completely or had only very limited effect e.g. you somehow only hit 2 enemies where the chance was there to hit 15.&nbsp; On a confirmed fumble, all bets are off: you might have hit yourself and-or allies, or hit something else you didn't want to hit e.g. the supports holding the roof up, stuff like that.If you're trying to fine-tune it in any way e.g. put the fireball bead through a small opening or start the lightning bolt at the front line such as to miss your allies but hit the enemies, then the roll gets more difficult on a case-by-case basis.&nbsp; Ditto for spells being cast into an area you can't see, either due to vision impairment or because the target area is behind an obstruction (some non-damage AoE spells can be cast behind obstructions).And it's not just damage spells.&nbsp; Other area-effect spells e.g. Sleep, Dispel Magic**, etc. also need aiming rolls to put the area where you want.* - yes, they bounce in my game. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />** - Dispel Magic tries to affect everything in its area, none of this single-target nannying here; which means you really don't want to hit your friends with it!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 8190161, member: 29398"] That's a start. Me, I use a d20; if the aim doesn't need to be fine-tuned (e.g. a fireball into open space with nothing but enemies in the area) than usually anything over about 5 is enough to pretty much put it right where you want. Lower than this, down to and including 2, means you missed by a bit and either I or the player will roll a d8 for direction. On a 1, things can get interesting - maybe the fireball bead wrecked on some obstacle en route, or the lightning bolt didn't bounce* quite like you expected, or you flat-out misjudged the distance; but most often it means you either missed completely or had only very limited effect e.g. you somehow only hit 2 enemies where the chance was there to hit 15. On a confirmed fumble, all bets are off: you might have hit yourself and-or allies, or hit something else you didn't want to hit e.g. the supports holding the roof up, stuff like that. If you're trying to fine-tune it in any way e.g. put the fireball bead through a small opening or start the lightning bolt at the front line such as to miss your allies but hit the enemies, then the roll gets more difficult on a case-by-case basis. Ditto for spells being cast into an area you can't see, either due to vision impairment or because the target area is behind an obstruction (some non-damage AoE spells can be cast behind obstructions). And it's not just damage spells. Other area-effect spells e.g. [I]Sleep[/I], [I]Dispel Magic[/I]**, etc. also need aiming rolls to put the area where you want. * - yes, they bounce in my game. :) ** - [I]Dispel Magic[/I] tries to affect everything in its area, none of this single-target nannying here; which means you r[I]eally[/I] don't want to hit your friends with it! [/QUOTE]

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