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<blockquote data-quote="Khur" data-source="post: 501496" data-attributes="member: 5583"><p>Does a creature that's been charmed know it has been charmed after the spell wears off? It's not implicit that this is so in anything I remember reading in the rules or D&D FAQ.</p><p></p><p>It is likely that a creature that does something against its normal tendencies while charmed will know something is odd. (Like a merchant forced to give a good deal, or some such thing.) What if the enchanting party is very subtle, and only uses his or her influence to nudge the charmed creature in minor directions? What if the caster is friendly to the victim, or at least is good at acting so? What if he or she is willing to take actions that would convince the enchanted party of his or her own loyalty?</p><p></p><p>Is it possible to repeatedly charm a creature in this subtle manner? Through this possible alternative use of the spell, the enchanter merely augments her own influence instead of using the spell for short-term gain. A victim of this spell might actually come to like (or even love) the caster legitimately, though the process of that "liking" is sped by the fact that magic is being used.</p><p></p><p>Note that the mechanics of a love potion suggests that the charm person spell might be used in this way, since the amorousness created by the potion lingers. The Charm and Compulsion section of the DMG doesn't say one way or another. The section of the DMG on Saving Throws reads that someone under the effect of such a spell doesn't know it, but doesn't say what happens when the spell wears off.</p><p></p><p>The rules are unclear about whether a creature knows it has been charmed, or I've forgotten the rule, and don't know where to find it.</p><p></p><p>Your suggestions or ideas?</p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khur, post: 501496, member: 5583"] Does a creature that's been charmed know it has been charmed after the spell wears off? It's not implicit that this is so in anything I remember reading in the rules or D&D FAQ. It is likely that a creature that does something against its normal tendencies while charmed will know something is odd. (Like a merchant forced to give a good deal, or some such thing.) What if the enchanting party is very subtle, and only uses his or her influence to nudge the charmed creature in minor directions? What if the caster is friendly to the victim, or at least is good at acting so? What if he or she is willing to take actions that would convince the enchanted party of his or her own loyalty? Is it possible to repeatedly charm a creature in this subtle manner? Through this possible alternative use of the spell, the enchanter merely augments her own influence instead of using the spell for short-term gain. A victim of this spell might actually come to like (or even love) the caster legitimately, though the process of that "liking" is sped by the fact that magic is being used. Note that the mechanics of a love potion suggests that the charm person spell might be used in this way, since the amorousness created by the potion lingers. The Charm and Compulsion section of the DMG doesn't say one way or another. The section of the DMG on Saving Throws reads that someone under the effect of such a spell doesn't know it, but doesn't say what happens when the spell wears off. The rules are unclear about whether a creature knows it has been charmed, or I've forgotten the rule, and don't know where to find it. Your suggestions or ideas? :D [/QUOTE]
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