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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rothe" data-source="post: 2953181" data-attributes="member: 39813">Good points.  One way is to have different casters do this independently at different times.  First to have the caster's serve as a check against each other, second to better foil defenses.  If magical truth finding is critical, a kingdom might have a special room set up to foil counter-measures.  Better yet, wouldn't the king just have someone craft him an item that can detect truth/lies.  Maybe in a scepter or orb, your typical regalia.  Why rely on a spell caster to tell him?  Which also address the next well raised point.Magic of course won't replace a good line of questioning to discern what people believe to be true from facts, to probe for memerory gaps caused by spells etc.Agreed.  For day to day crimes of those of the lower classes magic is a waste of resources.  However for high treason, who the king can trust and who he cannot, it is in the king's self interest to know the truth.  Convicting a loyal follower is going to weaken the king, not just in losing the loyal person but in still having the very disloyal person (i.e. the one who framed the loyal person) around.  My vote then is for kings to have magic items for detecting truth, enchantments, etc.  This way they know and decide the issue, and can easily frame someone they wan't to get out of the way.On the original post, new evidence in such a high crime might be the presentation of evidence of the existance of magic, etc. that foiled the kings truth finding magic items.  This could be very hard to find, requiring adventure <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> and a big bad devious bad guy.  If the condemed traitor has always appeared loyal, the king may give the son a long time (a year?) to find proof.  However, with the ability to bring people back from the dead, maybe your executed in a manner that allows later for raise dead.  Heck the father's ghost could be a very good investigatory aid, just ask Hamlet. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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