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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 794763" data-attributes="member: 6875">Methinks you forget, for the HEavy Fortification to apply, the armor must be at LEAST +1 to start with.As I stated further down, I was pulling numbers form memory as my books were not with me.Either keep a civil tongue in your head, or be ignored, lackwit.I don't care what the DMG lists ... those prices are for wholly random abilities.&nbsp; Dice rolling, not NAMED.&nbsp; You name a specific power, you pay for that ability and suck it up (note, I didn't charge for the ring to have an intelligence at all, whereas I -could- have said &quot;intelligence squared times 2000gp&quot; based on the cost to ENHANCE an attribute.&nbsp; And in your case, with your attitude, I would!.Quite an insightful close to your needlessly insulting post.I figured as much, actually -- yoru needless hostility being the first clue.&nbsp; Tell you what, &quot;friend&quot; -- were you in my campaign, your decision to cop an attitude over the pricing would have driven the Torc and the Ring alike, form &quot;millions of GP, high Epic items&quot; ... straight into &quot;screw that, not in MY campaign.&quot;There are as many definitions of munchkin as there are munchkins.&nbsp; IMO, &quot;munchkin&quot; refers to anyoen who ABUSES the rules, wether they are broken or not, for personal advantage.Which your silly trick with an intelligent ring clearly is -- please, try and TELL me you weren't planning on having the RING activate the various healing (etc) abilities imbued into it.No.&nbsp; A Min/max player doesn't needfully abuse the rules.&nbsp; You're a munchkin; deal with that fact.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pax, post: 794763, member: 6875"] Methinks you forget, for the HEavy Fortification to apply, the armor must be at LEAST +1 to start with. As I stated further down, I was pulling numbers form memory as my books were not with me. Either keep a civil tongue in your head, or be ignored, lackwit. I don't care what the DMG lists ... those prices are for [b]wholly random[/b] abilities. Dice rolling, not NAMED. You name a specific power, you pay for that ability and suck it up (note, I didn't charge for the ring to have an intelligence at all, whereas I -could- have said "intelligence squared times 2000gp" based on the cost to ENHANCE an attribute. And in your case, with your attitude, [b]I would![/b]. Quite an insightful close to your needlessly insulting post. I figured as much, actually -- yoru needless hostility being the first clue. Tell you what, "friend" -- were you in my campaign, your decision to cop an attitude over the pricing would have driven the Torc and the Ring alike, form "millions of GP, high Epic items" ... straight into "screw that, not in MY campaign." There are as many definitions of munchkin as there are munchkins. IMO, "munchkin" refers to anyoen who ABUSES the rules, wether they are broken or not, for personal advantage. Which your silly trick with an intelligent ring clearly is -- please, try and TELL me you weren't planning on having the RING activate the various healing (etc) abilities imbued into it. No. A Min/max player doesn't needfully abuse the rules. You're a munchkin; deal with that fact. [/QUOTE]

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