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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 794808" data-attributes="member: 6875">Actually, that was me, not kreynolds.And the x10 is clearly defined in the ELH section on magic.&nbsp; If the item qualifies as an Epic item, then it's market price is 10x normal.&nbsp; One of the suggested tripwires for that, is when its market price is over 200,000 (at DM's discretion).So once your item costs 200,001gp or more, the DM can &lt;i&gt;at any time when new abilities are beign added&lt;/i&gt;, declare it an Epic magic item, and figure the end price (after the adding of that power) at the full, 10x for everything level.&nbsp; Which means, yes, your price suddenly jumps by a LOT.Oh well; that's what you deal with, if you keep piling more and more magic into a single item.&nbsp; *shrug*Consider, for example, a Longsword.&nbsp; A +5 Longsword costs (5x5x2000, plus MW sword) 50,315gp.&nbsp; Take the same sword, and improve it to a +6 Longsword.&nbsp; By the DMG pricing (assuming a +6 sword was even possible), it shoudl cost (6x6x2000, plus MW sword) 72,315.&nbsp; Now, go look up a +6 sword in the ELH.&nbsp; What would it cost?&nbsp; (6x6x2000x10, plus MW sword) 720,315.&nbsp; ELH page 130, Table 4-9 lists exactly that -- a jump from +50,000gp (for a +5 weapon), to +720,000gp (for a +6 weapon).Once something is an Epic item, it costs 10x as much as the regular DMG or T&amp;B tables would have estimated -- speaking strictly &quot;by the book&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pax, post: 794808, member: 6875"] Actually, that was me, not kreynolds. And the x10 is clearly defined in the ELH section on magic. If the item qualifies as an Epic item, then it's market price is 10x normal. One of the suggested tripwires for that, is when its market price is over 200,000 (at DM's discretion). So once your item costs 200,001gp or more, the DM can at any time when new abilities are beign added, declare it an Epic magic item, and figure the end price (after the adding of that power) at the full, 10x for everything level. Which means, yes, your price suddenly jumps by a LOT. Oh well; that's what you deal with, if you keep piling more and more magic into a single item. *shrug* Consider, for example, a Longsword. A +5 Longsword costs (5x5x2000, plus MW sword) 50,315gp. Take the same sword, and improve it to a +6 Longsword. By the DMG pricing (assuming a +6 sword was even possible), it shoudl cost (6x6x2000, plus MW sword) 72,315. Now, go look up a +6 sword in the ELH. What would it cost? (6x6x2000x10, plus MW sword) 720,315. ELH page 130, Table 4-9 lists exactly that -- a jump from +50,000gp (for a +5 weapon), to +720,000gp (for a +6 weapon). Once something is an Epic item, it costs 10x as much as the regular DMG or T&B tables would have estimated -- speaking strictly "by the book". [/QUOTE]

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