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<blockquote data-quote="Nytmare" data-source="post: 8122953" data-attributes="member: 55178"><p>I'm not quite sure where you think the paradox lies in that statement. If you're dealing with an infinite set, an infinite order of magnitude larger or smaller is still infinite.</p><p></p><p>As Umbran was saying to me before, the specks and motes travelling back and forth between the many worlds aren't operating outside of or even impacting that framework, they are, have, and always will be the part of the framework statically laid out when/as the system existed/s.</p><p></p><p>I don't know if reading Flatland would help for a lot of the people in this thread or not (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland" target="_blank">Flatland - Wikipedia</a>). As I have always understood it, the line between how you and I experience and comprehend time vs what Many Worlds theorizes it <em>actually </em>is, is the difference between how you or I would experience and comprehend what a three dimensional object was if we existed and were interacting with it WITHIN a two dimensional space. Within two dimensions, with no concrete way of actually experiencing a third, a sphere would be a circle, bounded by 2 dimensions. Not even a circle as we would imagine it drawn on a piece of paper, because there's no third dimension vantage point that we could ever view it from. A sphere passing by us would be like a circle that started off as a dot, would get bigger and bigger, and then eventually shrink and disappear. Our understanding of the sphere would be that growing and shrinking circle, not what it actually was: a sphere.</p><p></p><p>That disconnect is quite possibly the same disconnect that you and I have when we talk about how we experience time. What if the whole of everything that has happened and will happen, as we see it sequentially and chronologically, is just a where our three dimensions bump into a complex extradimensional structure? Extradimensionally, you would be able to see it in its entirety for what it actually is, but trapped down here in 3 dimensions, all you see are the moments and seconds and months and years dragging along.</p><p></p><p>Also, the presupposition isn't that "everything is possible" it's that anything that IS possible is. It's not a Rule 34 catchall. Just because you can imagine a world where flying, sentient mailboxes are the dominant form of life doesn't mean that reality had to bother cobbling that set of impossible circumstances together.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nytmare, post: 8122953, member: 55178"] I'm not quite sure where you think the paradox lies in that statement. If you're dealing with an infinite set, an infinite order of magnitude larger or smaller is still infinite. As Umbran was saying to me before, the specks and motes travelling back and forth between the many worlds aren't operating outside of or even impacting that framework, they are, have, and always will be the part of the framework statically laid out when/as the system existed/s. I don't know if reading Flatland would help for a lot of the people in this thread or not ([URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland']Flatland - Wikipedia[/URL]). As I have always understood it, the line between how you and I experience and comprehend time vs what Many Worlds theorizes it [I]actually [/I]is, is the difference between how you or I would experience and comprehend what a three dimensional object was if we existed and were interacting with it WITHIN a two dimensional space. Within two dimensions, with no concrete way of actually experiencing a third, a sphere would be a circle, bounded by 2 dimensions. Not even a circle as we would imagine it drawn on a piece of paper, because there's no third dimension vantage point that we could ever view it from. A sphere passing by us would be like a circle that started off as a dot, would get bigger and bigger, and then eventually shrink and disappear. Our understanding of the sphere would be that growing and shrinking circle, not what it actually was: a sphere. That disconnect is quite possibly the same disconnect that you and I have when we talk about how we experience time. What if the whole of everything that has happened and will happen, as we see it sequentially and chronologically, is just a where our three dimensions bump into a complex extradimensional structure? Extradimensionally, you would be able to see it in its entirety for what it actually is, but trapped down here in 3 dimensions, all you see are the moments and seconds and months and years dragging along. Also, the presupposition isn't that "everything is possible" it's that anything that IS possible is. It's not a Rule 34 catchall. Just because you can imagine a world where flying, sentient mailboxes are the dominant form of life doesn't mean that reality had to bother cobbling that set of impossible circumstances together. [/QUOTE]
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