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<blockquote data-quote="UnknownAtThisTime" data-source="post: 6697079" data-attributes="member: 94582">Oh, I know.&nbsp; I won't go there so the thread hopefully won't either. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;&nbsp; This is not one of those threads.&nbsp;You defined my 2 concerns (for my group/instance):&nbsp;&nbsp; So, it sounds to me like, 1) since there is no assumption of a map and 2) the rules are potentially &quot;confusing&quot; it may not be the right spot for time starved gamers to take it up.&nbsp; &nbsp; I have been leaning this way, and time will probably make the decision on my behalf.Of note, it is funny the 'equalizing roles' are one thing I would have tossed out of 4e as well.&nbsp; but it is easy enough to do that on ones own by having an unbalanced party (which our small group often does).&nbsp; Proceed at <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f44d.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs up&nbsp; &nbsp; (y)"&nbsp; data-smilie="22"data-shortname="(y)" />our own peril!&nbsp; Thanks for the feedback, it is helpful.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="UnknownAtThisTime, post: 6697079, member: 94582"] Oh, I know. I won't go there so the thread hopefully won't either. ;) This is not one of those threads. You defined my 2 concerns (for my group/instance): So, it sounds to me like, 1) since there is no [B]assumption [/B]of a map and 2) the rules are potentially "confusing" it may not be the right spot for time starved gamers to take it up. I have been leaning this way, and time will probably make the decision on my behalf. Of note, it is funny the 'equalizing roles' are one thing I would have tossed out of 4e as well. but it is easy enough to do that on ones own by having an unbalanced party (which our small group often does). Proceed at (y)our own peril! Thanks for the feedback, it is helpful. [/QUOTE]

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