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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Savevsdeath" data-source="post: 6241556" data-attributes="member: 73230">I started at the very beginning of 3E's lifecycle, though I owned AD&D 2nd ed books but had never played until years after i'd already started playing 3.0. Not entirely relevant, but i actually have a recent experience (actually an experience-in-progress) that i think is worth contrbuting to this discussion, as a friend of mine recently invited my to join an online OSRIC game via Roll20. We haven't even started yet, and all the players don;t want to even try it anymore, myself included, because it just looks so incredibly not fun. Character options are nonexistent, the rules are wonky and unbalanced, and worst of all the classes are just not fun. I made an Assassin just because I was amused to see that it used to be a core class, and when i saw that i'd be level 9 before i'd even have a snowballs chance in hell of successfully sneaking up on anything I got pretty discouraged. On a lark, i recently grabbed the AD&D 2e books again, and i can safely say that i'd rather play literally any modern game than so much as touch that abomination. It had the same problems as OSRIC, but it was even more complicated, and my modern game design sensibilities just kept wanting to homebrew fixes, then i'd realize it was easier to just pretend that editions before 3.0 didn't exist. That's what i'm doing now, though i'm going to play in the OSRIC game anyway just because my friend is running it, but I don't expect to enjoy it very much.</blockquote>

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