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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Okuma" data-source="post: 3952687" data-attributes="member: 48436">Not all mines will be gone.&nbsp; Not many places will be impassable.&nbsp; Alaska I agree.&nbsp; Texas, no.Ask the locals, hey, where's junkyard I am going to need some steel?&nbsp; I need a hammer, some leather or cloth for a bellows and some wood.&nbsp; Oh yeah, I am going to need a rock until I make an anvil.&nbsp; Anybody got some pliers?&nbsp; Where's the forest so I can make charcoal?&nbsp; Oh, and we have blacksmiths in Hawaii you know.How much steel can you get from a car?&nbsp; Think about it.Actually people who work at foundries know how to repair them and have the manuals to do so.&nbsp; Some use outside help for repairs, but those are small time operators.&nbsp; Most people I know who work at foundries can repair them.&nbsp; A lot of them actually contribute to designing of new ones.&nbsp; It's the Demings management principle.First of all they have working models.&nbsp; Figuring them out is easier.&nbsp; Encyclopedias showing the basic principles.&nbsp; How to books.&nbsp; Second one place has all the experts... a nuclear submarine or Aircraft carrier.&nbsp; If one nuke boat survives they have a machine shop and can power up a fabrication grid to rapidly rebuild society.&nbsp; Oh by the way making a dynamo from scratch was a class assignment in my high school electronic class, it was easy but tedious.&nbsp; Dunno, my cousin made a 1909 model T engine for his model T from scratch he said it wasn't very hard.Edit:&nbsp; Here's the kit similar to the one I used.&nbsp; Caution ages ten and up.<a href="http://www.fatbraintoys.com/toy_companies/dowling_magnets/electric_motorgenerator_science_discovery_kits.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.fatbraintoys.com/toy_companies/dowling_magnets/electric_motorgenerator_science_discovery_kits.cfm</a>First you recycle. Then you do work arounds.&nbsp; Inferior materials will work, just not as well.Wrong.&nbsp; For the 1909 engine on a model T all you need is steel.&nbsp; Poor quality steel at that.&nbsp; Where did you learn about early internal combustion engines?Right and trade will patch the gaps.&nbsp; And thus blacksmiths will go quickly obsolete.And in 2000 years there will be back to the start or ahead of the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warren Okuma, post: 3952687, member: 48436"] Not all mines will be gone. Not many places will be impassable. Alaska I agree. Texas, no. Ask the locals, hey, where's junkyard I am going to need some steel? I need a hammer, some leather or cloth for a bellows and some wood. Oh yeah, I am going to need a rock until I make an anvil. Anybody got some pliers? Where's the forest so I can make charcoal? Oh, and we have blacksmiths in Hawaii you know. How much steel can you get from a car? Think about it. Actually people who work at foundries know how to repair them and have the manuals to do so. Some use outside help for repairs, but those are small time operators. Most people I know who work at foundries can repair them. A lot of them actually contribute to designing of new ones. It's the Demings management principle. First of all they have working models. Figuring them out is easier. Encyclopedias showing the basic principles. How to books. Second one place has all the experts... a nuclear submarine or Aircraft carrier. If one nuke boat survives they have a machine shop and can power up a fabrication grid to rapidly rebuild society. Oh by the way making a dynamo from scratch was a class assignment in my high school electronic class, it was easy but tedious. Dunno, my cousin made a 1909 model T engine for his model T from scratch he said it wasn't very hard. Edit: Here's the kit similar to the one I used. Caution ages ten and up. [url]http://www.fatbraintoys.com/toy_companies/dowling_magnets/electric_motorgenerator_science_discovery_kits.cfm[/url] First you recycle. Then you do work arounds. Inferior materials will work, just not as well. Wrong. For the 1909 engine on a model T all you need is steel. Poor quality steel at that. Where did you learn about early internal combustion engines? Right and trade will patch the gaps. And thus blacksmiths will go quickly obsolete. And in 2000 years there will be back to the start or ahead of the game. [/QUOTE]

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