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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Okuma" data-source="post: 3956698" data-attributes="member: 48436"><p>Most mines I toured have two backup generators. All you need to do is make biodiesel or alcohol. It's there as a safety feature. I think it is mandated by law or the unions. They have two back up generators, so they can keep mining during power failures because closing a mine during a power failure means that they are throwing away money. Greed. Oh and safety... yeah right. Those KCA (Kentucky Coal Association) guys.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Windmills can be repaired and not all solar cells will be destroyed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wrong, the main reason that some coal deposits are not economical is because the deposit is too small. It takes money to start up and a small deposit is not economical. That's according to my friends uncle who is a prospector.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nah, not the surface ones.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I only expect an average of five to ten mile devastation inland on the average. You are talking about 90% casualties, not 100% right? And running a power line 100 miles is not that bad. And anchoring off shore is not very hard, it just sucks in a storm.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I see your problem. You are not modeling the impact accurately. </p><p></p><p>The average impact will yield about 80,000,000,000,000,000 Joules of energy right? Give or take. For a ninety percent casualty rate. It can go slightly larger, but you risk total extinction considering the amount of targets you have... which yields... lemmie dig out my impact effects formulas... hmmm... </p><p></p><p>Within a three and a half mile radius an over pressure of 20+ Pounds per square inch: Total devastation, the area is leveled. Maybe a few shock cocoon structures may survive. Poor salvage. 98%+ killed. </p><p></p><p>Out to about ten and a half miles radius you will get oh... on average 5 pounds per square inch: Destruction of most buildings and 40%+ killed. Average salvage.</p><p></p><p>Out to 29 miles, you will get on average a 1 PSI blast: Damage to most buildings, and excellent salvage. 2.1%+ killed. </p><p></p><p>So take a map and see where it hits. The blasts are going to overlap. If your dump is four miles from the strike, salvage will be average.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But you know, and now I know. And maybe five percent of the pop in Texas knows. Especially the protestors, some legislators, park employees, sanitation engineers, etc....and the neighbors and their friends and...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not too bad of a problem. Processed plant derived oils. And start up the oil wells.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All the interim technologies are easy to get up and running. I agree some tech will be unrepairable. And yeah you are going to have to settle for WW2 era tech for a while. Oh well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Some places would not even lose their roads. (see my impact effect table or let's see yours) Yeah some places will be isolated for years. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Some will, some won't. See my impact effect table. You are thinking a 100% kill rock (you've got to take into account the secondary blast effects you know). Think ninety percent KIA rock. Totally destroyed roads means totally destroyed people. Eh been driving on damaged roads forever.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In some places yes. Not everywhere. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hell no. My arcane spell casters just love to live in Mordenkanin's Magnificent mansion. Casting that is status. Rope trick is an effective anti theft/anti-scrying spell and gives privacy and security. Especially female spell casters. Pervs you know. And magic spam and junk mail.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So mind flayers are almost extinct and never seen? People can't use a celestron telescope to check it out the sky?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are space flight today. And sats, and telescopes, and TV programs warning of asteroid strikes. And amateur skywatchers. Hell I know amateurs with 12 inch telescopes who would check out anything. And they love to find asteroids and regularly talk to NASA and they are more chatty than teenage girls. Speed dial NASA. Some people.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nobody goes adventuring underground anymore? What?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You would be surprised on how many people believe in ghosts, UFO's, Bigfoot, etc....</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh... the people that can't look though a telescope? Come on. They committed mass suicide IMHO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Okuma, post: 3956698, member: 48436"] Most mines I toured have two backup generators. All you need to do is make biodiesel or alcohol. It's there as a safety feature. I think it is mandated by law or the unions. They have two back up generators, so they can keep mining during power failures because closing a mine during a power failure means that they are throwing away money. Greed. Oh and safety... yeah right. Those KCA (Kentucky Coal Association) guys. Windmills can be repaired and not all solar cells will be destroyed. Wrong, the main reason that some coal deposits are not economical is because the deposit is too small. It takes money to start up and a small deposit is not economical. That's according to my friends uncle who is a prospector. Nah, not the surface ones. I only expect an average of five to ten mile devastation inland on the average. You are talking about 90% casualties, not 100% right? And running a power line 100 miles is not that bad. And anchoring off shore is not very hard, it just sucks in a storm. I see your problem. You are not modeling the impact accurately. The average impact will yield about 80,000,000,000,000,000 Joules of energy right? Give or take. For a ninety percent casualty rate. It can go slightly larger, but you risk total extinction considering the amount of targets you have... which yields... lemmie dig out my impact effects formulas... hmmm... Within a three and a half mile radius an over pressure of 20+ Pounds per square inch: Total devastation, the area is leveled. Maybe a few shock cocoon structures may survive. Poor salvage. 98%+ killed. Out to about ten and a half miles radius you will get oh... on average 5 pounds per square inch: Destruction of most buildings and 40%+ killed. Average salvage. Out to 29 miles, you will get on average a 1 PSI blast: Damage to most buildings, and excellent salvage. 2.1%+ killed. So take a map and see where it hits. The blasts are going to overlap. If your dump is four miles from the strike, salvage will be average. But you know, and now I know. And maybe five percent of the pop in Texas knows. Especially the protestors, some legislators, park employees, sanitation engineers, etc....and the neighbors and their friends and... Not too bad of a problem. Processed plant derived oils. And start up the oil wells. All the interim technologies are easy to get up and running. I agree some tech will be unrepairable. And yeah you are going to have to settle for WW2 era tech for a while. Oh well. Some places would not even lose their roads. (see my impact effect table or let's see yours) Yeah some places will be isolated for years. Some will, some won't. See my impact effect table. You are thinking a 100% kill rock (you've got to take into account the secondary blast effects you know). Think ninety percent KIA rock. Totally destroyed roads means totally destroyed people. Eh been driving on damaged roads forever. In some places yes. Not everywhere. Hell no. My arcane spell casters just love to live in Mordenkanin's Magnificent mansion. Casting that is status. Rope trick is an effective anti theft/anti-scrying spell and gives privacy and security. Especially female spell casters. Pervs you know. And magic spam and junk mail. So mind flayers are almost extinct and never seen? People can't use a celestron telescope to check it out the sky? There are space flight today. And sats, and telescopes, and TV programs warning of asteroid strikes. And amateur skywatchers. Hell I know amateurs with 12 inch telescopes who would check out anything. And they love to find asteroids and regularly talk to NASA and they are more chatty than teenage girls. Speed dial NASA. Some people. Nobody goes adventuring underground anymore? What? You would be surprised on how many people believe in ghosts, UFO's, Bigfoot, etc.... Oh... the people that can't look though a telescope? Come on. They committed mass suicide IMHO. [/QUOTE]
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