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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4783646" data-attributes="member: 22779">Shemeska, you are also a bad, bad individual.&nbsp; No cookies for you.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />As to why this list is limited to 25 and under, I thought I was clear in my OP.&nbsp; The question on the table is what, if any, works would serve as a good entry point into the hobby of D&amp;D.&nbsp; In other words, can we have something comparable to Appendix N in the 1e DMG in the 4e DMG?I argued that for newer players, trying to rely on older writers isn't a good idea, since they just aren't all that well read.&nbsp; That's the point of this poll.&nbsp; Anyone who is 25 or younger hasn't been playing a huge amount of time - 15 years at best really.&nbsp; And probably far fewer.&nbsp; So, I'm thinking that if 5 of the real biggies of older fiction aren't standing up to 5 pretty biggies of later fiction, then maybe we should have a game that borrows more heavily from what new gamers are actually reading.For example, while AD&amp;D borrowed heavily from Vance, Lieber and Howard, younger gamers have never read anything by them.&nbsp; All three are sucking a very hind <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> to Jordan and Rowlings.&nbsp; Tolkien is still the king though, so, we should not ignore him.While there haven't been a huge number of respondants, I think I've shown my point fairly well.&nbsp; Continuing to rely on dead authors is not going to serve D&amp;D in the long run.&nbsp; What's the point of referencing Fafrd or Lahnkmar if it only confuses new gamers?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4783646, member: 22779"] Shemeska, you are also a bad, bad individual. No cookies for you. :p As to why this list is limited to 25 and under, I thought I was clear in my OP. The question on the table is what, if any, works would serve as a good entry point into the hobby of D&D. In other words, can we have something comparable to Appendix N in the 1e DMG in the 4e DMG? I argued that for newer players, trying to rely on older writers isn't a good idea, since they just aren't all that well read. That's the point of this poll. Anyone who is 25 or younger hasn't been playing a huge amount of time - 15 years at best really. And probably far fewer. So, I'm thinking that if 5 of the real biggies of older fiction aren't standing up to 5 pretty biggies of later fiction, then maybe we should have a game that borrows more heavily from what new gamers are actually reading. For example, while AD&D borrowed heavily from Vance, Lieber and Howard, younger gamers have never read anything by them. All three are sucking a very hind :):):) to Jordan and Rowlings. Tolkien is still the king though, so, we should not ignore him. While there haven't been a huge number of respondants, I think I've shown my point fairly well. Continuing to rely on dead authors is not going to serve D&D in the long run. What's the point of referencing Fafrd or Lahnkmar if it only confuses new gamers? [/QUOTE]

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