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<blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 7442430" data-attributes="member: 59057">If fighting power is all you need and you only want to focus on what is augmenting your base monk powers, then you have good reason to dismiss the 4e monk as &quot;underpowered&quot;.And still, there might be situations where utility beats combat strength. That might be true only for some tables.I am sorry for spelling errors. I am typing fast on my smartphone.I probably won't chose the fly spell omfor an aaracokra monk.And to repeat myself again: I think the subclass is not very well designed. It is also very strange that you cam dump all kinpoints into a single power that is not a spell but the spell is limited. Clench of the northwind and eternal mountain defense are probably strong, but less weaker than similar level base powers. I recently looked for the playtest of the monk and you notice that the monk (and the ranger too) were heavily modified after the last playtest. So it is not surprising that those classes while not totally off are not feeling right.Last plea: please enlighten me how the open hand powers really help in your trial scenarios? I fail to see the utility of the open hand techniques.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="UngeheuerLich, post: 7442430, member: 59057"] If fighting power is all you need and you only want to focus on what is augmenting your base monk powers, then you have good reason to dismiss the 4e monk as "underpowered". And still, there might be situations where utility beats combat strength. That might be true only for some tables. I am sorry for spelling errors. I am typing fast on my smartphone. I probably won't chose the fly spell omfor an aaracokra monk. And to repeat myself again: I think the subclass is not very well designed. It is also very strange that you cam dump all kinpoints into a single power that is not a spell but the spell is limited. Clench of the northwind and eternal mountain defense are probably strong, but less weaker than similar level base powers. I recently looked for the playtest of the monk and you notice that the monk (and the ranger too) were heavily modified after the last playtest. So it is not surprising that those classes while not totally off are not feeling right. Last plea: please enlighten me how the open hand powers really help in your trial scenarios? I fail to see the utility of the open hand techniques. [/QUOTE]

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