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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dremen" data-source="post: 352669" data-attributes="member: 6773">Stopping powerSabots might lack stopping power.Even non saboted rounds with small cross sections sometimes offer little in the way of stopping power. Take this example.most 9mm pistols can hold 15 rounds or so. most .45 cal hold 10 or less.9mm tends to be more popular because of the higher capacity, but it lacks stopping power compared to the .45.The .45 moves slower but has a larger cross section. I have read many reports of cops puting upwards of 9 shots in a suspect (usually 9mm) and they still don't stop (not dead, but dropped and stopped). .45's tend to have better stopping power, but you have to have more skill as you have 2/3's the shots. Police TEND to have lower skill than recreational shooters. (The gun is part of thier job they only need such and such skilll level to qualify.) Where a shooter who derives his pleasure from shooting, they practice more and tend to be better shooters. Cops TEND to prefer 9mm with its higher ammo count, requireing more shots to stop target and to get the target in the first place. In my experience most non-law enforcement shooters prefer .45's as it has better stopping power and can be less lethal (stop the attacker not kill, also see frangible and glaser ammo) Or the shooters prefer smaller calliber for more convenient carry options. These guys rely on shot placement more than stopping power.Your milage may vary but this is what I have seen. Saboted rounds may do less damage than standard ammo.Modern military rounds are smaller and lighter and faster than they used to be. The rounds also tumble when they hit a soft target, causeing more damage than just penetration. The idea is to wound the enemy. This takes 2 guys out. 1 the primary target and 2 the guys buddy trying to hold his intestines in. -just some random thoughts.D</blockquote>

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