Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="JeffB" data-source="post: 357846" data-attributes="member: 518">As far as the Sabot roounds go (and thier ilk)....Thopse old Accelerator rounds from Remington flat out sucked...accuracy wise...I tried both the 308 and 06 loadings in   several different bolt action, semi-auto, and pump action rifles that would all group 3 shots under an inch of a bench at 100 yards with the right ammo. None of the Accellerator's would group under 3" for me. Not accurate enough for the long range varmint shooting I intended to use them for. .Now regarding modern sabots...these have become quite common in modern day blackpowder firearms for hunting purposes. I can say from experience that I do not find them to have the "knockdown" or shock power of heavier mass loads travelling at lower speeds (roundballs or otherwise). The Sabots do yield much better accuracy.On the other hand for centerfire catridges I much prefer a high velocity lighter mass weight(bullet) round for "system shock/knockdown"...for example I've found that for thin skinned big-game hunting purposes the right .25-06 load will have greater shock and wounding capability (and hence quicker,cleaner kills) than a 30-06 load with heavier mass bullets travelling at slightly slower speeds (and I prefer a higher velocity 270 Win or 280 Rem as well to a 308 or 30-06). In any event I've shot enough game with a variety of equipment to prove to myself at least what works better in that circumstance..Not to say that the )6and 308 won't do the job, they will, I just think the lighter mass higher velocity rounds will do it more consistently.My conclusion is that in the blackpowder firearms simply do not have the efficiency needed to propel the lighter bullet weights at sufficent velocities to make a difference  in performance on game.Bullet type also has a huge impact (whether it's desined to "tumble" as someone said, or fragement or expand heavily upon initial penetration or not). One of my co-workers (a fairly novice hunter) one year complained about 2 animals he had to track for a longer distance than normal after making good shots on them. Afterwards we found little "internal" damage and poor exit wounds. I later found out he had been given some miltary ball ammo which was desined for penetration and not expansion, hence the bullets were zipping through wthout much shock vallue or destructive properties. Perhaps more detailed than some here would like to know, but real world resullts are often a better guage than the theory</blockquote>

Verification