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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 4183598" data-attributes="member: 13966">It would be decent in concept, but better with 9 levels of Swordsage instead of the last 9 levels of Shadowdancer.However, the main pitfall, really, is that the concept is utterly worthless against Tiamat.  Completely.  The only thing it'll accomplish is to take half damage from her numerous breath weapons every time she breathes on him, because he'll never make the DC 59 Reflex save, so Improved Evasion would be the only thing keeping him alive for a few rounds.  And that's assuming she doesn't just bite him in half.  Of course, the save DC is only 46 for the Tiamat in Manual of the Planes, which he might manage on a natural roll of 16 or so with high Dex, a Cloak of Resistance +5, and the high base Reflex of all those classes combined.Tiamat can see invisible and ethereal all the time.  And as a dragon goddess, she has blindsight out to 10 freakin' miles.  And there's no way he could (with any kind of decent chance, beyond like 5 or 10%) Bluff past her +59 or so Sense Motive bonus in order to utilize Sudden Strike (or a rogue's Sneak Attack), short of custom major-skill-boosting magic items.  Or multiclassing into various stuff to get esoteric Bluff bonuses, like a snake familiar, Mindbender PrC levels (IIRC) after taking some wizard levels, etc.For something vaguely similar, you might try a 20th-level Swordsage or something.  But relying on the Emerald Razor maneuver to automatically attack her Touch AC, using Adaptive Style every other round to ready that maneuver again.  Trying to hit her 50 AC or so otherwise will be a major pain. (+15 base attack as a swordsage, +1 weapon focus, +10 Dexterity with Weapon Finesse and a rapier, +5 from the rapier's enhancement, +2 flanking I suppose?, +1 from a Stone of Good Luck or something?, for a total of like +34 to-hit, so needing a 16 or better I guess?  but her Touch AC of 2 is no problem)  You'll have some sneaky stuff, but won't be able to do much damage.Actually, screw that.  Play a sorcerer that relies on touch attack spells that don't rely on any particular damage type.  Orb of Force maybe?  Broken, but the best bet for slaying Tiamat.  Oh, just make sure to Heighten it above 5th-level; only 6th-level + spells have any effect on Tiamat. -_-  I can't believe I just suggested someone use Orb of Force.</blockquote>

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