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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8136089" data-attributes="member: 7026617">I understand what you're saying but, well, to be really blunt, I think a discussion of this topic that does not engage with the psychology of perception when it comes to these things&nbsp; is largely useless.&nbsp; After all, at the end of the day, this is not any more a case of biased perception than what leads to a concern or not for a degree of agency in the first place.&nbsp; Some people care a great degree; some people really, really don't.&nbsp; And what things draw the line where that happens are almost entirely internal and how it feels to them.&nbsp; Otherwise, as I noted, any improvisation whatsoever would be unacceptable, which is largely impossible outside a very narrow kind of game.So I think the concern for agency and where someone sees it being impaired is an almost entirely internal matter, and ignoring where people draw these lines leave any analysis as pointless.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 8136089, member: 7026617"] I understand what you're saying but, well, to be really blunt, I think a discussion of this topic that does not engage with the psychology of perception when it comes to these things is largely useless. After all, at the end of the day, this is not any more a case of biased perception than what leads to a concern or not for a degree of agency in the first place. Some people care a great degree; some people really, really don't. And what things draw the line where that happens are almost entirely internal and how it feels to them. Otherwise, as I noted, any improvisation whatsoever would be unacceptable, which is largely impossible outside a very narrow kind of game. So I think the concern for agency and where someone sees it being impaired is an almost entirely internal matter, and ignoring where people draw these lines leave any analysis as pointless. [/QUOTE]

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