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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 8137740"><p>First, you are straw manning. Second, you were going well beyond agency in your post. And you were making a play style argument invoking the language of philosophical and moral enlightenment (players awakening to the dramatic potential). More agency doesn't equal higher level play is my point. In terms of what agency means, I think there is a huge gulf between two sides in defining that term on this thread. But virtually no one is defining agency as being on a railroaded plot by a GM. The problem is, you keep trying to make it about narrative control, rather than the freedom to control your character in the setting. And you keep framing it as if the preference you happen to hold is a higher form of agency and a higher form of play. Some people like adventure paths. Not my preference, but there are things people get to experience in an adventure path that are less likely to come up or harder to achieve in my preferred style of play. There is no best style. Every style has trade offs. And there are some styles that place great value on agency. Not all do. At the end of the day, it isn't even clear how any of this connects to the OP, because it has somehow become about two different play styles fighting over legitimacy through the concept of agency.</p></blockquote><p></p>