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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 8138962" data-attributes="member: 6785785">I took all that more as challenging the common assumptions. [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] is being a bit provocative perhaps, but it’s because he has something to say.There are games that don’t see a distinction between the types of actions you’re talking about. So if that’s the case, then it’s true that there doesn’t need to be such distinctions, and their existense and or use is solely a matter of preference.Well this is just me going to 5E as an example. Even I assume things about how prevalent D&D is.Maximizing may not be the right choice. But a game that has the basic character control level of agency that you’re mentioning....I’m free to have my PC go where and do what I would like him to....and then also adds the ability fore as a player to shape the setting in some way....isn’t that adding to the amount of agency I have as a player?This is where I get confused because it seems this is where people just don’t want to admit that their chosen game has less agency than another. But why not?I love Super Mario Brothers. I love Grand Theft Auto. If I love Super Mario Brothers more, that doesn’t make it have the same level of agency as Grand Theft Auto.</blockquote>