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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 8138979"><p>This is actually a perfect example to illustrate where I and, where I believe, Crimson, are coming from. What about Excite Bike? The agency you describe above is about your ability to do things in the setting. In grand theft auto, it feels like more agency to me because I am not forced to only go left or right, and I can interact with the setting however I like (a game like Shenmue was also great for this sense of having agency in a living world). In excite bike you could customize the track in all sorts of ways. Now that was a lot of fun (I think I preferred designing tracks to playing excite bike) but it didn't give me more agency. More agency would have been the ability to drive off the track or run over people in the stands.</p></blockquote><p></p>