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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 8144352" data-attributes="member: 6785785">I don't think I'm using it to equivocate. I'm using it because I feel it's an accurate description of the result of playing a RPG. I don't mean fiction as in a work of literature or art. My kid lies to me all the time; those are fictions, not War and Peace. I feel like it's the most accurate word for what I'm trying to say. Game or setting or world.....all those seem prone to interpretation.I don't know if I'd go that far, honestly. These days I'm trying to play different games as much as possible, and the goals of play can vary wildly. For instance, I just got some new books for Mothership, which is a game that plays in a very traditional sense and is very much old school in its approach. I can't wait to run that for my group.I think that this is an interesting example because there is nothing as a player that would lead me to expect that I would be allowed to pour soda over someone's head. That's more an element of being a guest. But if we examine things as a player....not the character, but the player.....then I think the kinds of things become more clear. How much ability does the player have to influence the game? I think it was [USER=6696971]@Manbearcat[/USER] who compared this to football. There are rules and there are processes that determine how a player can influence the game of football. There are rules and processes for a RPG, and they determine how a player can influence a game.I have literally told you that I do not mean it as an insult. I can do no more at this point. You can choose to believe me or not, but then as I said, that is on you.</blockquote>

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