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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 8144676" data-attributes="member: 29398">Easy.  The player realizes the role-play is on its way to a crash-and-burn and - hoping the GM hasn't noticed yet - wants to roll.It's only determined in retrospect, by how long it takes.But when there's players (or GMs) who aren't willing to spend that time, there's a problem.In a role-play situation that in theory involves the whole party:Player (usually to another player): "Stop wasting time - just roll!"Other player: "But this is a cool scene, and I want to play it out!"Things quickly degenerate from there.The other one, where it's a single PC in the situation:Player: "I don't want to go through all this talky stuff - just let me roll."GM: "If you don't 'go through all this' you're not going to get a chance to roll."And how is that ever going to end well?I've had those bosses; and I earnestly hope I've never been that boss. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />That said, there's some people (and I'm thinking of one ex-boss of mine in particular) where no matter how long you work for them you just never quite get a read on what makes them tick.  Some people are just inscrutable that way.</blockquote>