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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8145532" data-attributes="member: 42582">Not in any deep way. Maybe not even in any superficial way.I think the situation authority that comes with 4e is similar to the "implicit suggestion" authority over setting that comes up when the player of the high-level paladin starts speculating about finding a Holy Avenger and so the GM decides to put one in the next adventure. It's well short of shared control over the details of framing.I think the differences that you point to between Streetwise in 4e and Gather Information in 3E go to the heart of system architecture:4e has a clear resolution framework which allows Setting authority as an aspect of that (eg it's taken for granted that the use of Streetwise in a skill challenge might involve the player referring to contacts and local dives and the like which haven't been previously established in the shared fiction; this is reinforced by the Slow Pursuit Streetwise-based skill power);3E does not, so it presents a skill that only makes sense if we assume some player authority over setting (and if the "no obvious reason" clause is treated as a credibility check) but that in practice, given the lack of clear structure and principle and the likely folding of the "no obvious reason" clause into broader references to "rule zero" (which itself gets used quite differently from how I first read it in the 3E PHB), is apt to be heavily GM gated and manipulated in all sorts of ways.</blockquote>

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