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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8146492" data-attributes="member: 42582">But of course the players will realise it's happened!You asked "if you "say yes" when it's not appropriate as per the system, then what?" In systems that use "say 'yes' or roll the dice", it is inappropriate to say yes if the action undertaken by the PC (eg telling the lie; capering along the bridge railing) actually is important to someone at the table, rather than something with which everyone can simply go along by way of free roleplay and uncontradicted narration.So if the GM allows something to simply be established via free roleplay and uncontradicted narration, and the player actually wanted it to matter and be put to the test, the player will know because she'll notice that s/he isn't getting the check that s/he hoped for.</blockquote>