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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 8146691" data-attributes="member: 7025508"><p>There was earlier some talk about the symmetry of social mechanics vis-à-vis NPCs and the PCs and personally I feel that they don't need to work similarly. I generally feel that mechanics should roughly be same for both, but this is one area where I gladly make the exception. I really do not like using any sort of mechanics that compel the player characters to behave in certain way, force values on them etc, and as player such thing happening to my character is one of my biggest pet peeves. I don't necessarily mind some short term magical things that are basically CC effects, but things that try to tell me how to roleplay my character are a no go. When I GM I don't usually roll social skills against PCs, I just let the NPC's social stats inform how I portray them. An opposed test when a PC tries to detect whether the NPC is lying might be an exception, but even there a success for the NPC doesn't mean that the PC has to believe them, merely that they did not notice obvious signs of lying.</p></blockquote><p></p>