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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8149258" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Well, if I just wanted to roleplay and not play a game, why would I get out my RPG rules? I don't need rules to roleplay. I enjoy the game element, AND the roleplay element, so we all invented a type of RPG where they are truly both equally important. Every part of one of these games is both roleplay AND game. It seems like a lot of what you describe involves them being two separate things. I note that comes up often, so for example [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] often describes long rules-free RP sessions. The game he is describing involves decoupled RP which has no 'game' to it. Again, the players may then "decide they want to do X" based on something they roleplayed their characters talking about. That's fine, and that might establish some new fiction. It just didn't involve 'game' in any sense. There wasn't any tension. I include these 'interludes' in my own rules, but there they serve exactly this purpose of simply allowing some plot color to be established. Later the GM can use that to frame scenes where risk is taken.</p><p></p><p>I see risk as a central part of RPGs, in general. It is a central part of story telling, there is conflict, something is at stake. You can have a sort of narrative without that, but it is not capable of 'coming to a head'. At best it is sort of like a Soap Opera, where you know that no matter what happens the characters will be back next week.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8149258, member: 82106"] Well, if I just wanted to roleplay and not play a game, why would I get out my RPG rules? I don't need rules to roleplay. I enjoy the game element, AND the roleplay element, so we all invented a type of RPG where they are truly both equally important. Every part of one of these games is both roleplay AND game. It seems like a lot of what you describe involves them being two separate things. I note that comes up often, so for example [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] often describes long rules-free RP sessions. The game he is describing involves decoupled RP which has no 'game' to it. Again, the players may then "decide they want to do X" based on something they roleplayed their characters talking about. That's fine, and that might establish some new fiction. It just didn't involve 'game' in any sense. There wasn't any tension. I include these 'interludes' in my own rules, but there they serve exactly this purpose of simply allowing some plot color to be established. Later the GM can use that to frame scenes where risk is taken. I see risk as a central part of RPGs, in general. It is a central part of story telling, there is conflict, something is at stake. You can have a sort of narrative without that, but it is not capable of 'coming to a head'. At best it is sort of like a Soap Opera, where you know that no matter what happens the characters will be back next week. [/QUOTE]
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