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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 8150027" data-attributes="member: 5142"><p>I think that you are misunderstanding (or possibly misconstruing*) the discussion at hand. An engagement with "in-character roleplaying" is a baseline assumption for the discussion. But others, like [USER=16814]@Ovinomancer[/USER] and [USER=82106]@AbdulAlhazred[/USER], have also demonstrated the almost banal point that it's not even necessarily required for play, as playing a role may simply involve a pawn stance. And as an overwhelming number of GMs have pointed out in this forum: sometimes people aren't too invested in in-character roleplay and are just there to turn their brains off and have fun kicking down doors and shooting orcs.</p><p></p><p>I think part of the frustration, at least on our end of things, is that you sound like an American who can't conceptualize any other understanding of personal freedoms apart from an American one that includes a Constitution with the American Bill of Rights. And insisting that because some European country, for example, doesn't have the 1st Amendment that their presses don't have freedoms. Or that if their press has restrictions in one facet that they could therefore not possibly have more freedom than the U.S. press.</p><p></p><p>* I suspect that you are feeling frustrated that people refuse to accept your more limited framing of player agency, which is why you have increasingly adopted a hostile attitude of "if people don't play ball my way, I'll storm off in a huff and a puff."</p><p></p><p></p><p>By this point, I think we all understand your preferences and position, and likely better than you understand ours.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 8150027, member: 5142"] I think that you are misunderstanding (or possibly misconstruing*) the discussion at hand. An engagement with "in-character roleplaying" is a baseline assumption for the discussion. But others, like [USER=16814]@Ovinomancer[/USER] and [USER=82106]@AbdulAlhazred[/USER], have also demonstrated the almost banal point that it's not even necessarily required for play, as playing a role may simply involve a pawn stance. And as an overwhelming number of GMs have pointed out in this forum: sometimes people aren't too invested in in-character roleplay and are just there to turn their brains off and have fun kicking down doors and shooting orcs. I think part of the frustration, at least on our end of things, is that you sound like an American who can't conceptualize any other understanding of personal freedoms apart from an American one that includes a Constitution with the American Bill of Rights. And insisting that because some European country, for example, doesn't have the 1st Amendment that their presses don't have freedoms. Or that if their press has restrictions in one facet that they could therefore not possibly have more freedom than the U.S. press. * I suspect that you are feeling frustrated that people refuse to accept your more limited framing of player agency, which is why you have increasingly adopted a hostile attitude of "if people don't play ball my way, I'll storm off in a huff and a puff." By this point, I think we all understand your preferences and position, and likely better than you understand ours. [/QUOTE]
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