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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8152740" data-attributes="member: 16814">Sorry for the second reply, but I don't think your example sunk in the first time I read it.&nbsp; I would find your specific use to be the exact kind of agency reduction I was talking about.&nbsp; The GM has used their understanding of the fiction to negate an action that isn't genre inappropriate (I assume (WIS) Insight use isn't).&nbsp; This isn't really a genre violation, it's a GM's understanding violation.&nbsp; That the GM's understanding comes from material they've adopted for use doesn't really evade this, because they GM chose that material and the GM is using it as their own.&nbsp; Effectively, in this moment, there's only the GM's call.Shoot the moon, though, yeah, that's outside the bounds of a lot of game concepts (not all, though), and if it is a genre violation, then it should be discussed, but not, I think, via in-game mechanics or choices.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8152740, member: 16814"] Sorry for the second reply, but I don't think your example sunk in the first time I read it. I would find your specific use to be the exact kind of agency reduction I was talking about. The GM has used their understanding of the fiction to negate an action that isn't genre inappropriate (I assume (WIS) Insight use isn't). This isn't really a genre violation, it's a GM's understanding violation. That the GM's understanding comes from material they've adopted for use doesn't really evade this, because they GM chose that material and the GM is using it as their own. Effectively, in this moment, there's only the GM's call. Shoot the moon, though, yeah, that's outside the bounds of a lot of game concepts (not all, though), and if it is a genre violation, then it should be discussed, but not, I think, via in-game mechanics or choices. [/QUOTE]

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