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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8152780" data-attributes="member: 6795602">Of course.  If something so obviously stupid sounding comes out of my mouth it's likely that it's not what I'm saying at all <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />What I am saying is that analyzing relative amounts of agency between games is meaningless because more or less agency doesn't make for a better game nor does it tell us anything actually important about how the game plays.The only reason you care what has more agency or less is that you believe you like games with more agency.  I believe that if you'd engage that part of the conversation (and I think you do below) that you would realize you don't actually prefer more agency.  There's only certain kinds of agency you prefer.Analysis serves a purpose though and knowing what has more or less agency serves none.IMO, you are misconstruing my analysis of such games being different from your analysis of them as meaning I misunderstand how such games function.I think that's a fair characterization.I agree.  But I'm not using it to say you like it, I am using it as an example of a game you dislike that has even more agency than the ones you like - essentially it shows the determining factor of the games you enjoy isn't related to overall amount of agency.</blockquote>

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