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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 8153189" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Paragraph 1:I don't understand how you come to that conclusion?  Without entropy or referee error (Force), literally the only thing is the agency of the the parameters/initial conditions or players and coaches (player agency and meaningful choices).  How in the world are you processing that as no meaningful choices and complete agency deprivation?Paragraph 2:You're smuggling in something (the behavioral conditioning/hypnosis required of athletes/coaches to exclusively focus on their internal locus of control) that doesn't have anything to do with the actual inputs and outputs of the system. And I'll let you know (having been an athlete all of my life and at the collegiate level), focus on process, one game/play at a time, focus on "what you can control" is just secular religion.  Its mental preparation to give you your best chance to win.  It in no way is actual honest analysis on what is happening in the system.  Athletes can't afford honest analysis because the moment they start being honest, they realize that referee error and other externalities have ENORMOUS impact on the trajectory of their play/careers...and that is an absolute death spiral of insecurity and despair.  Save the honest analysis for when your career is over.  While you're in it, its religion all the way down.But we aren't "in it."  We're outsiders performing a thought experiment.  So smuggling in the religion of athletes/coaches is not only not useful...its actively harmful to understanding the actual machinery at play in a Football game.  Anyone who thinks a bad call of Defensive Holding on 3rd and 17 in a one score game in the 3rd quarter isn't an enormous deal "because you don't want to put yourself in the position where referee error can significantly affect the trajectory of play" is either (a) peddling in obfuscation and religion (whether unknowingly or knowingly) or (b) doesn't understand the working parts at play.</blockquote>

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