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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8157860" data-attributes="member: 16814">When you make proclamations about how play you don't do works, there's a reasonable ask for you to show your work.  You've repeated insisted that your opinions are well founded, and yet anyone with actual experience sees they're foundationless bloviating.  If you're going to continue to insist on saying how other games work then it's very reasonable to call you out on this and ask for an example -- since you think you can accurately present play you should be able to form an example, yes?  One would imagine that you have no interest in learning or understanding anything about the topic.I mean, the reverse to your approach would be to say that D&D is nothing more than a Mother-May-I game, where participants are granted the leeway to pantomime whatever fits with the GM's direction of the game.  That the players are little more than actors, following the script and direction of the GM in play.  I, however, have actually played D&D, and know this is a bad example -- it's a caricature full of hyperbole and a bit of outright misrepresentation of the game; it's a description of a degenerate version of play.  So, I don't.  But, you have no problem doing this exact thing -- caricature and hyperbole of degenerate play of other games-- because you lack any actual understanding or experience of those game.  The real difference is that I also once thought the things you thought (not that I didn't need knowledge, that part's unique to you), but I actually went and learned something rather than yell into the wind.</blockquote>

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