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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8160050" data-attributes="member: 16814">And?  I'm not intimately familiar with all the Parliamentary governments, but in the US, the Congress has no ability to pass a law -- this is the President's authority and agency.  Similarly, the President has no ability to propose a law -- this is the Congress' authority and agency.  The President's veto, used or not, means Congress has no agency to pass a law.Now, in reality, Congress has a check on this and can force a law over a veto with the proper actions, so Congress does retain some agency here, but that's because they have a way to overcome a no.So, if you have to ask to do a thing, you have agency to do it if you're given permission?  Because, if I have the authority to say no, and don't, then what has happened is that I have given permission.  I can't see a form of agency that requires seeking permission to be extant.It's the fundamental block.  In my reply to [USER=7016699]@prabe[/USER] I noted that actual situations in a social setting are far more complex and an on paper authority to say no may not translate into an actual ability to say no.  However, in any situation where no can be deployed unilaterally by another, you lack agency in that situation -- you must seek permission to play.</blockquote>