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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8161030" data-attributes="member: 42582">No it's not - as [USER=6787503]@Hriston[/USER] has explained already.In the fiction there is a different causal relationship between tower => my memory of it and my muscular motion with my sword => death of Orc. But I'm not talking about imagined causal processes; I'm talking about the play of a RPG. I was responding to a post by [USER=6795602]@FrogReaver[/USER] which referred to "Mechanics that give players power of the situation or setting outside their character". Combat mechanics give players power over situation or setting outside their characters - eg the power to have the situation or setting include dead Orcs.In both the fight case and the memory case, the process is exactly as [USER=6787503]@Hriston[/USER] has said, which is also exactly as I have posted upthread: there is an established fictional context, then an action declaration, then resolution of that, which results in new/changed fiction.</blockquote>