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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8162696" data-attributes="member: 42582">I agree. Are [USER=16586]@Campbell[/USER] and I on the same side? Campbell doesn't care too much for scene-based RPGs, but I run a number of them (BW, Prince Valiant, Cortex+ Heroic/MHRP) and like them a lot. Campbell does sandboxing and players 5e D&D - neither is true of me. (I've GMed "sandbox" Rolemaster 25 to 30 years ago, but not with any great felicity.)Which side is [USER=7016699]@prabe[/USER] on? Prabe and I approach RPGing pretty differently but I don't feel our exchanges in this thread are very confrontational or sit on different "sides".The notion of "sides" is trying to establish or impute conflict where there is none.I had two responses to this exchange.(1) [USER=85555]@Bedrockgames[/USER] and [USER=6795602]@FrogReaver[/USER] both complain about others' terminology, their use of "agency", etc - yet here tries to own the notion of reality. Using it to mean authored in advance by the GM. Which implies that any "no myth" game per se lacks reality in its setting.What is that meant to mean, given that we're all talking about imaginary things? Is it meant to tell us something about Bedrockgames's preferences and feelings? I think we're already well aware of those, from this and other threads. Is it meant to tell us how he thinks he would feel playing Burning Wheel? Is it meant to be a criticism of players of "no myth" games? My reading is some mixture of all three.(2) Why does it matter whether the PCs go north or south? [USER=16586]@Campbell[/USER] not far upthread posted "Many GMs make the decision to focus on physical space and moving through it while not focusing much on characters as like people. I take the opposite approach."In my Classic Traveller game, when the PCs travel on-world, I almost never care whether they're going north or south (contrast: whether they're going towards or away from a world's equator).In our Prince Valiant game, we track the location of the PCs on maps of Britain and greater Europe, but I don't think it's ever mattered which compass direction they headed independently of some description like We go back to the beach or We set sail for Cyprus.<a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/prince-valiant-actual-play-our-most-recent-sessions.668770/" target="_blank">In a Prince Valiant session a little over a year ago</a>, the PCs encountered the Bone Laird - the undead remains of an ancient Celtic ruler of a part of what today we would call Romania - while travelling from the Dalmation coast to Constantinople. I did not have the location of the Bone Laird marked on any map. The players had declared that they were undertaking the trip. I narrated them passing through a forest - hardly unexpected in that time (c 8th century CE) and place - and being confronted by the Bone Laird.This was a straightforward exercise of GM authority over situation and scene-framing.It is not remotely part of the point of RPGing in the world of Prince Valiant to see if - through cleverness or luck - your PCs can avoid encountering the Bone Laird. So whether the Bone Laird is in the north or the south of the forest is completely immaterial.If you want to see how the players exercised their agency in that episode, you can read the link above.</blockquote>

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