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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 8162995" data-attributes="member: 6779310">¡¡¡Fiction state does NOT begin with play!!!As a GM, my fiction state begins when I find out what the group intends as to setting options, sometimes before. The game itself has a chunk of fiction as well, and that is also part of my pre-game fiction state.Hopefully, that of the players overlaps mine enough that things don't go horribly wrong. I've never had a game where there wasn't at least one case per 8 hours of play of a miscommunication. Fundamentally, that's because each person has their own fiction state; there is no "shared" one, only the ideal of sufficient overlap between the 2-14 players and I.Likewise, as a player, my fiction state begins with character generation, not with play. The same seems to be true for my wife, my kids, the 20-somethings in my Alaska group, and the teens in my corvallis group. Each of us has some view of the character before interactions with the GM and game state.. And, if the game is one they know, or uses a setting they know, there's also the carried forward knowledge of the setting that may or may not exist in my view of the setting. Fundamentally, these views always gets changed in play. But not always for the worse. It's even more true when characters are point-built - without the concept, build is much less effective. And for games with pure random, play is to find out who this stack of numbers describes... but the  fictive state begins before session unless session follows CGen immediately.Even when playing to find out who those random numbers are, there are presuppositions that are part of the fiction state motivating that player to make the in-character and character as pawn choices for that character.</blockquote>

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