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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8167009" data-attributes="member: 42582">Yes and no. I think it's pretty relevant to player agency, so I'm happy to go another round or two.5e Battlemaster dice are, for present purposes, no different from 4e D&D martial encounter powers.It was widely contended during the great 4e discussions that those powers escape the flow of the fiction in their granting and use. I've indicated upthread how this is true for BM dice (eg the clock is arbitrary - you recover 1 or  N dice on a rest whether you used them 5 hours ago or 3 minutes ago in the fiction, and can spend them once recovered at whatever pace you like).To say that they are "part of the character" is just to point to the resource game that the player of a BM buys into. In Prince Valiant every player buys into a framework where doing stuff that exhibits gallantry, flair and the like will earn a certificate. It's obviously filtered through GM judgement, but that can't be what makes it "metagame". (What if the GM decides the BM's rest wasn't restful enough, or introduces an encounter 53 minutes into it?)This is why I think these all - BM dice, 4e martial encounter powers and storyteller certificates - rise or fall together.I would contrast a Plot Point in MHRP/Cortex+ Heroic. When spent, this does not (as a general rule) correspond to anything in the fiction. It's just a dice pool manipulator.</blockquote>