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<blockquote data-quote="GuardianLurker" data-source="post: 279222" data-attributes="member: 786"><p>Edena -</p><p></p><p>I'd have to agree with your conclusions IF I felt the Robotech anime (or any anime at all, for that matter) correctly portrayed explosions. Most explosions in anime, especially ones observed in orbital bombardments are probably overstated by a factor of 10 or more. Further reducing the impact - not all of the Zentradei ships fired their guns.</p><p></p><p>For that matter, your calculations assume a relatively even distribution; such was not the case, as Doza concentrated his fire on heavily populated areas (in fact we see shots of several missiles striking the same targets). Large areas with extremely low population density, like the Amazon, Siberia, the American Midwest, etc. most likely escaped the direct effects of the bombardment. This can be directly seen on the "damage map" in the video. The after effects would probably still be severe, and you've described many of them. Life on land would certainly undergo an extinction event. </p><p></p><p>Even the characters in the anime recgonize this. "The whole planet." "Are they all dead?" "Probably."</p><p></p><p>However, very little bombardment of the oceans seems to have happened, so sterilization is far from being a possibility. The long-term raising of the ocean's temperature to 20-30 degrees Celsius is also highly improbable. Also, the complete melting of all the ice caps is likely to only cause a rise of about 100 meters maximum, and while that dooms just about all the major cities (which tend to be coastal), the shorelines don't change in shape all that much. (An interesting tool to explore this hypothesis BTW, is Fractal Terrains.)</p><p></p><p>Moreover, we have no direct evidence that the Zentradei weapons were nuclear in nature; at least some of the weapons used were energy-beam weapons, and others may have been purely kinetic. In fact, it's not even established (AFAIK) that the Zentradei (or the Robotech Masters or Invid) even possess nuclear technology. So radiation was probably not a major concern (though there was obviously some).</p><p></p><p>Actually, having just watched the relevant parts of the episode, I'm afraid the player's book is more accurate to the anime than your vision. This begs the question of whether or not the *anime* was accurate in its depiction, and that's not something I'm fully competent to judge, though my suspicions are things wouldn't be as bad as you portrayed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GuardianLurker, post: 279222, member: 786"] Edena - I'd have to agree with your conclusions IF I felt the Robotech anime (or any anime at all, for that matter) correctly portrayed explosions. Most explosions in anime, especially ones observed in orbital bombardments are probably overstated by a factor of 10 or more. Further reducing the impact - not all of the Zentradei ships fired their guns. For that matter, your calculations assume a relatively even distribution; such was not the case, as Doza concentrated his fire on heavily populated areas (in fact we see shots of several missiles striking the same targets). Large areas with extremely low population density, like the Amazon, Siberia, the American Midwest, etc. most likely escaped the direct effects of the bombardment. This can be directly seen on the "damage map" in the video. The after effects would probably still be severe, and you've described many of them. Life on land would certainly undergo an extinction event. Even the characters in the anime recgonize this. "The whole planet." "Are they all dead?" "Probably." However, very little bombardment of the oceans seems to have happened, so sterilization is far from being a possibility. The long-term raising of the ocean's temperature to 20-30 degrees Celsius is also highly improbable. Also, the complete melting of all the ice caps is likely to only cause a rise of about 100 meters maximum, and while that dooms just about all the major cities (which tend to be coastal), the shorelines don't change in shape all that much. (An interesting tool to explore this hypothesis BTW, is Fractal Terrains.) Moreover, we have no direct evidence that the Zentradei weapons were nuclear in nature; at least some of the weapons used were energy-beam weapons, and others may have been purely kinetic. In fact, it's not even established (AFAIK) that the Zentradei (or the Robotech Masters or Invid) even possess nuclear technology. So radiation was probably not a major concern (though there was obviously some). Actually, having just watched the relevant parts of the episode, I'm afraid the player's book is more accurate to the anime than your vision. This begs the question of whether or not the *anime* was accurate in its depiction, and that's not something I'm fully competent to judge, though my suspicions are things wouldn't be as bad as you portrayed. [/QUOTE]
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