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<blockquote data-quote="PallidPatience" data-source="post: 3131589" data-attributes="member: 16932">That's an issue with different DMing strategies, then, not with the skill in question. DMs have to do one of two things with regard to the social skills: use them as per the PH, or tell the players how they're going to regard/change them in their campaigns. If you're not going to care what someone rolls on his Intimidate check, tell him not to waste the skill-points. Otherwise, if you feel someone should be intentionally difficult to Intimidate, apply a modifier. Don't arbitrarily make it impossible. After all, what's more heroic than successfully scaring a red dragon away from its hoard? All in all, disregarding Intimidate, Bluff, and Diplomacy makes for one-dimensional characters. There's no point in trying to talk your way through any encounter in a campaign in which the DM doesn't care how good your characters are at doing so. The only things you can do are kill things and run away to avoid being killed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="PallidPatience, post: 3131589, member: 16932"] That's an issue with different DMing strategies, then, not with the skill in question. DMs have to do one of two things with regard to the social skills: use them as per the PH, or tell the players how they're going to regard/change them in their campaigns. If you're not going to care what someone rolls on his Intimidate check, tell him not to waste the skill-points. Otherwise, if you feel someone should be intentionally difficult to Intimidate, apply a modifier. Don't arbitrarily make it impossible. After all, what's more heroic than successfully scaring a red dragon away from its hoard? All in all, disregarding Intimidate, Bluff, and Diplomacy makes for one-dimensional characters. There's no point in trying to talk your way through any encounter in a campaign in which the DM doesn't care how good your characters are at doing so. The only things you can do are kill things and run away to avoid being killed. [/QUOTE]

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