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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3134889" data-attributes="member: 3929">Right off the shot, meaning, whenever they encounter someone in any social situation? (So they have the opportunity to spend a minute of time interacting with them.) This I have less of a problem with since they'll subject themselves to the consequences of being jerks.Or are you concerned with making the interaction usage of Intimidate into a Standard Action? Because I'm right with you there. It should most certainly not be a Standard Action.If you as a DM would allow PCs to go about saying things like:&quot;Have you said your prayers lately, padre?&quot;And nothing happens in consequence to them, like the police being called for Harassment (&quot;Oh, I'll just intimidate the police&quot; Yeah. Ok, buddy. Good way to make a quick trip to the jail or the gallows.), then I can understand why this skill is frustrating you.PCs are mean to people ---&gt; people are mean back to PCs.&quot;Hey King Pawsplay, since I've been your friend for a long time, I was thinking, would you mind if you abdicate and I become King?&quot;&quot;Sure, Mr... I mean &quot;King&quot; Felix; because I would abdicate my crown for a friend, I would surely have no problem leaving my duties, responsibilites and power because you, a friend, asks me to.&quot;Why would a king abdicate his throne for a friend? Because that's what their attitude is considered while the target is intimidated. It's not bloody mind control; if a friend would do it for you, the target will now do it for you, and hate you later. If a friend wouldn't do it for you, then the target still won't do it for you, no matter how high your bonuses are. Intimidate already is &quot;Within the DMs purview&quot;; he decides what a friend will and will not do for you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felix, post: 3134889, member: 3929"] Right off the shot, meaning, whenever they encounter someone in any social situation? (So they have the opportunity to spend a minute of time interacting with them.) This I have less of a problem with since they'll subject themselves to the consequences of being jerks. Or are you concerned with making the interaction usage of Intimidate into a Standard Action? Because I'm right with you there. It should most certainly not be a Standard Action. If you as a DM would allow PCs to go about saying things like: "Have you said your prayers lately, padre?" And nothing happens in consequence to them, like the police being called for Harassment ("Oh, I'll just intimidate the police" Yeah. Ok, buddy. Good way to make a quick trip to the jail or the gallows.), then I can understand why this skill is frustrating you. PCs are mean to people ---> people are mean back to PCs. "Hey King Pawsplay, since I've been your friend for a long time, I was thinking, would you mind if you abdicate and I become King?" "Sure, Mr... I mean "King" Felix; because I would abdicate my crown for a friend, I would surely have no problem leaving my duties, responsibilites and power because you, a friend, asks me to." Why would a king abdicate his throne for a friend? Because that's what their attitude is considered while the target is intimidated. It's not bloody mind control; if a friend would do it for you, the target will now do it for you, and hate you later. If a friend wouldn't do it for you, then the target [i]still[/i] won't do it for you, no matter how high your bonuses are. Intimidate already is "Within the DMs purview"; he decides what a friend will and will not do for you. [/QUOTE]

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