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Message: <blockquote data-quote="genshou" data-source="post: 2485985" data-attributes="member: 13164">Not to mention that the horse gets size bonuses on many of those strength-based checks, most notably grappling. As explained above, yes a +4 for a human would be the same as a +4 for a horse, but because some effects of Strength also depend on size for other modifiers... Or, you could just refer to the first post in this thread (you know, the one that opened the topic and defined the general range of the discussion’s tangents?).  It lists a different scale for the 15d6 method. That is true, but we should try to focus on the difference a 15d6 ability score calculation requires, as that was the original intent of this thread, and the intent behind all of my posts thus far.  As stated above, refer to the first post in the thread to see what the real discussion going on here amounts to. Ah, but that’s the joy of the House Rules forum.  Why leave untouched what you can tamper with? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Seriously, though, your point is very valid.  It’s just not a point that mythusmage seemed willing to consider when [he/she?] started this thread.  That’s why the thread started.  It’s about an alternate system that really functions rather well, except that rolling heroes requires a great deal of thought, and effects based on a score itself (such as carrying capacity, amount of time you can hold your breath, etc.) will have to be changed to somehow use the new scale.</blockquote>

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