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<blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 2444160" data-attributes="member: 10397">Well, I've also never understood or liked the &quot;arcane&quot; and &quot;divine&quot; magic divide. And indeed, untill 3rd edition there was no such divide, presented in that way...even less so in 1st edition. And in fact being subject or not subject to spell failure is one of the only actual &quot;different rules&quot; between the two types of magic, in terms of actual mechanics.&nbsp;That pretty much sounds like fluffy excuse making to me. Its basically &quot;Clerics can cast spells in armor and wizards cant, because its always been that way&quot;But the fact remains that mechanically Clerics are just as powerful and useful as spellcasters as Wizards are, and yet they have profciency with armor and can cast spells in it unhindered, and Wizards can not. This to me is an imbalance. It should either be removed, or it should apply to everyone.Using the whole &quot;gift from the gods&quot; rationale with the Cleric is rather dangerous. Just because flavor wise that is how they get there powers, it doesnt mean they should be allowed to have advantages over other classes mechanically.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Merlion, post: 2444160, member: 10397"] Well, I've also never understood or liked the "arcane" and "divine" magic divide. And indeed, untill 3rd edition there was no such divide, presented in that way...even less so in 1st edition. And in fact being subject or not subject to spell failure is one of the only actual "different rules" between the two types of magic, in terms of actual mechanics. That pretty much sounds like fluffy excuse making to me. Its basically "Clerics can cast spells in armor and wizards cant, because its always been that way" But the fact remains that mechanically Clerics are just as powerful and useful as spellcasters as Wizards are, and yet they have profciency with armor and can cast spells in it unhindered, and Wizards can not. This to me is an imbalance. It should either be removed, or it should apply to everyone. Using the whole "gift from the gods" rationale with the Cleric is rather dangerous. Just because flavor wise that is how they get there powers, it doesnt mean they should be allowed to have advantages over other classes mechanically. [/QUOTE]

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