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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2454346" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>Sorry- been gone for a while because Verizon cut my line while doing an upgrade to the infrastructure in my area... I don't know if this has become resolved or not, but I couldn't let it slide.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>While<em> technically</em> true, several Clerical/Druidic spells through the various edition of D&D were obviously inspired by Biblical passages and from other religious texts.</p><p></p><p>1stEd AD&D's 4th level Clerical/5th lvl Druid spell "Sticks to Snakes" (Moses vs Pharoah's priests) springs immediately to mind, as do things like Insect Plague/Creeping Doom (Plague of locusts- Moses again), Part Water (More Moses), Flame Strike (Sodom & Gamorrah), Fire Storm/Wall of Fire (Moses), Raise Dead (Jesus!), Tongues (Miracle of the Pentacaust- the Holy Spirit), Create Food and Water (Parable of the Loaves and Fishes- Jesus), and most of the healing and curing spells (various prophets).</p><p></p><p>Obviously what happened is that the rare "miracle" of religious texts became transformed into the clerical spells of early D&D...which eventually became termed "divine" magic. This transformed the and the rare "saint" became the Cleric.</p><p></p><p>Similarly, the Paladin is based squarely on stories of Saints real and fictional (Jean D'arc, Lancelot) and crusaders of noted prowess. While also rare, they became more common for purposes of inclusion into the game. Once again- their powers in legend were sourced from God, but that simply didn't fit the D&D game mechanic, so it was altered slightly.</p><p></p><p>As for my point that players play chainmail over breastplates for <strong>roleplay</strong> or <strong>availability</strong> reasons:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Once again, true, but it doesn't invalidate my assertion. I'm just saying that those are the only 2 reasons I've ever seen that REALLY make a difference in the ultimate equipment decisions players make for their PCs.</p><p></p><p>After all, since a 2 handed weapon with the appropriate feat tree is the best way for a warrior to do damage, why don't all players take that option? Or use the best Longbow or Hvy Crossbow? Instead, you see things like Whip Specialists who use 2 weapon style and PCs with Throwing daggers as their ranged weapon of choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2454346, member: 19675"] Sorry- been gone for a while because Verizon cut my line while doing an upgrade to the infrastructure in my area... I don't know if this has become resolved or not, but I couldn't let it slide. While[I] technically[/I] true, several Clerical/Druidic spells through the various edition of D&D were obviously inspired by Biblical passages and from other religious texts. 1stEd AD&D's 4th level Clerical/5th lvl Druid spell "Sticks to Snakes" (Moses vs Pharoah's priests) springs immediately to mind, as do things like Insect Plague/Creeping Doom (Plague of locusts- Moses again), Part Water (More Moses), Flame Strike (Sodom & Gamorrah), Fire Storm/Wall of Fire (Moses), Raise Dead (Jesus!), Tongues (Miracle of the Pentacaust- the Holy Spirit), Create Food and Water (Parable of the Loaves and Fishes- Jesus), and most of the healing and curing spells (various prophets). Obviously what happened is that the rare "miracle" of religious texts became transformed into the clerical spells of early D&D...which eventually became termed "divine" magic. This transformed the and the rare "saint" became the Cleric. Similarly, the Paladin is based squarely on stories of Saints real and fictional (Jean D'arc, Lancelot) and crusaders of noted prowess. While also rare, they became more common for purposes of inclusion into the game. Once again- their powers in legend were sourced from God, but that simply didn't fit the D&D game mechanic, so it was altered slightly. As for my point that players play chainmail over breastplates for [B]roleplay[/B] or [B]availability[/B] reasons: Once again, true, but it doesn't invalidate my assertion. I'm just saying that those are the only 2 reasons I've ever seen that REALLY make a difference in the ultimate equipment decisions players make for their PCs. After all, since a 2 handed weapon with the appropriate feat tree is the best way for a warrior to do damage, why don't all players take that option? Or use the best Longbow or Hvy Crossbow? Instead, you see things like Whip Specialists who use 2 weapon style and PCs with Throwing daggers as their ranged weapon of choice. [/QUOTE]
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