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<blockquote data-quote="Wik" data-source="post: 5416621" data-attributes="member: 40177">Fair enough.&nbsp; but in my experience, this is not the reason people name drop the game.&nbsp; It's done entirely as a &quot;why play BECMI when you can play the clone that is exactly like BECMI&quot; tone.&nbsp; In another thread, I rather clearly stated that I had all the relevant books and knew the game I was going to play... and still got more than a few clone suggestions.&nbsp; THAT is what ticks me off.And it's not just clones.&nbsp; It's also Savage Worlds, which will get recommended in pretty much any &quot;game discussion&quot; thread.&nbsp; If someone complains about one rule in WFRP, there will be someone name-dropping Savage Worlds.&nbsp; And yeah, it just annoys me a tad.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;Not for my group.&nbsp; If it's free, they naturally assume that it's therefore worthless.&nbsp; Since I'm usually the only guy that buys books (my group consists mostly of pirate-type people, unfortunately), the books are already &quot;free&quot; for them.&nbsp; But if they were free at the start... they hate the product.&nbsp; My group is weird... an entirely different thread, though.&nbsp;Remember when OSRIC first came out?&nbsp; The original goal was to have a rules reference that new designers referred to so new 1e products could come out.&nbsp;&nbsp; It was basically intended that no one would actually USE the clone - they would use their 1e books, and use OSRIC to get new products.I realize this has changed a bit since inception, but the idea remains the same.&nbsp; If you already have the books, the clones exist purely so you can buy new products for your game.&nbsp; If someone has the books already, mentioning the clone should be done only for those hoping to expand their game - not as a replacement for those books.&nbsp; &nbsp;Yeah, that was pretty shameless.&nbsp; But hey, it's actually not a bad game.&nbsp; I have a copy of the clone.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wik, post: 5416621, member: 40177"] Fair enough. but in my experience, this is not the reason people name drop the game. It's done entirely as a "why play BECMI when you can play the clone that is exactly like BECMI" tone. In another thread, I rather clearly stated that I had all the relevant books and knew the game I was going to play... and still got more than a few clone suggestions. THAT is what ticks me off. And it's not just clones. It's also Savage Worlds, which will get recommended in pretty much any "game discussion" thread. If someone complains about one rule in WFRP, there will be someone name-dropping Savage Worlds. And yeah, it just annoys me a tad. :) Not for my group. If it's free, they naturally assume that it's therefore worthless. Since I'm usually the only guy that buys books (my group consists mostly of pirate-type people, unfortunately), the books are already "free" for them. But if they were free at the start... they hate the product. My group is weird... an entirely different thread, though. Remember when OSRIC first came out? The original goal was to have a rules reference that new designers referred to so new 1e products could come out. It was basically intended that no one would actually USE the clone - they would use their 1e books, and use OSRIC to get new products. I realize this has changed a bit since inception, but the idea remains the same. If you already have the books, the clones exist purely so you can buy new products for your game. If someone has the books already, mentioning the clone should be done only for those hoping to expand their game - not as a replacement for those books. Yeah, that was pretty shameless. But hey, it's actually not a bad game. I have a copy of the clone. ;) [/QUOTE]

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