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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6293614" data-attributes="member: 67338">I would start with 4e basics and 3e basics and mash them together. We have the idea of ‘good’ and ‘medium’ and ‘bad’ for saving throws already so lets take that to everything and start from there.Good progression 2+ Half levelMedium progression 1+ third levelBad progression fourth levelSo over 20 levels1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 02&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 03&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 04&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 15&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 16&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 17&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 18&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 29&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 210&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 211&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 212&nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 313&nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 314&nbsp; &nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 315&nbsp; &nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 316&nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 417&nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 418&nbsp; 11&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 419&nbsp; 11&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 420&nbsp; 12&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 5Melee combatRanged combatMental combatTrained skillUntrained skillSavesDefensesAll follow these charts, and classes mix and match them.I would also mix saves and defenses. 3 defenses 2 saveMental DefenseReflex DefenseToughness Defense&nbsp;Will power saveFortitude saveExample: A fighter could have a good Melee combat, medium Ranged combat , bad Mental combatGood Trained skill, bad Untrained skillMedium Mental Defense, medium Reflex Defense, Good Toughness DefenseMedium Will power save&nbsp; Good Fortitude saveThat’s 4 good and 2 bad with 4 mediums A rogue could have medium Melee combat, medium Ranged combat , bad Mental combatGood Trained skill, medium Untrained skillBad Mental Defense, Good Reflex Defense, Medium Toughness DefenseMedium Will power save&nbsp; Medium Fortitude saveThat’s 6 medium 2 good and 2 badSo a level 5 rogue with a trained skill has 4+stat and in an untrained skill 2+stat but a fighter has 4+ stat in the trained one but 1+ stat in an untrained one…I would give everyone Con score hp</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6293614, member: 67338"] I would start with 4e basics and 3e basics and mash them together. We have the idea of ‘good’ and ‘medium’ and ‘bad’ for saving throws already so lets take that to everything and start from there. Good progression 2+ Half level Medium progression 1+ third level Bad progression fourth level So over 20 levels 1 2 1 0 2 3 1 0 3 3 2 0 4 4 2 1 5 4 2 1 6 5 3 1 7 5 3 1 8 6 3 2 9 6 4 2 10 7 4 2 11 7 4 2 12 8 5 3 13 8 5 3 14 9 5 3 15 9 6 3 16 10 6 4 17 10 6 4 18 11 7 4 19 11 7 4 20 12 7 5 Melee combat Ranged combat Mental combat Trained skill Untrained skill Saves Defenses All follow these charts, and classes mix and match them. I would also mix saves and defenses. 3 defenses 2 save Mental Defense Reflex Defense Toughness Defense Will power save Fortitude save Example: A fighter could have a good Melee combat, medium Ranged combat , bad Mental combat Good Trained skill, bad Untrained skill Medium Mental Defense, medium Reflex Defense, Good Toughness Defense Medium Will power save Good Fortitude save That’s 4 good and 2 bad with 4 mediums A rogue could have medium Melee combat, medium Ranged combat , bad Mental combat Good Trained skill, medium Untrained skill Bad Mental Defense, Good Reflex Defense, Medium Toughness Defense Medium Will power save Medium Fortitude save That’s 6 medium 2 good and 2 bad So a level 5 rogue with a trained skill has 4+stat and in an untrained skill 2+stat but a fighter has 4+ stat in the trained one but 1+ stat in an untrained one… I would give everyone Con score hp [/QUOTE]

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