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<blockquote data-quote="Drifter Bob" data-source="post: 1760151" data-attributes="member: 17723">Reality checkthe point is, some weapon designs are just inferior and it doesn't matter how much you train.&nbsp; This 'surprise' factor is much less signficant than you make it out to be.&nbsp; It always seems very impressive in kung fu movies, but in real life, reach, speed, controllability and balance are what is important.&nbsp;&nbsp; Surprises and trick moves can only take you so far.I don't know what kind of training you do, most Eastern Martial arts is mostly based in katas, and very few do full contact weapon sparring.&nbsp; I've been doing WMA for about 20 years, and always with full-contact sparring.&nbsp; I can tell you that for example, a guy with a single short weapon under 30&quot; is going to lose 95% of the time against someone with a longer weapon say 42&quot; or more.&nbsp; A person facing someone with a shield who doesn't have a much longer weapon is at a similarly huge disadvantage against anyone who is marginally competent.If you do any full contact, full force weapon sparring in your training then you should know this.&nbsp; The master who is adept at fighting with the soup taureen simply will not gain enough advantage from this &quot;surprise factor&quot; to win against a halfway competent sword and shield guy.&nbsp; Period.DB</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Drifter Bob, post: 1760151, member: 17723"] [b]Reality check[/b] the point is, some weapon designs are just inferior and it doesn't matter how much you train. This 'surprise' factor is much less signficant than you make it out to be. It always seems very impressive in kung fu movies, but in real life, reach, speed, controllability and balance are what is important. Surprises and trick moves can only take you so far. I don't know what kind of training you do, most Eastern Martial arts is mostly based in katas, and very few do full contact weapon sparring. I've been doing WMA for about 20 years, and always with full-contact sparring. I can tell you that for example, a guy with a single short weapon under 30" is going to lose 95% of the time against someone with a longer weapon say 42" or more. A person facing someone with a shield who doesn't have a much longer weapon is at a similarly huge disadvantage against anyone who is marginally competent. If you do any full contact, full force weapon sparring in your training then you should know this. The master who is adept at fighting with the soup taureen simply will not gain enough advantage from this "surprise factor" to win against a halfway competent sword and shield guy. Period. DB [/QUOTE]

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