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A reason why 4E is not as popular as it could have been
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<blockquote data-quote="Herremann the Wise" data-source="post: 5450686" data-attributes="member: 11300"><p>Only a handful? Really? I suggest entertaining the thought that there was more than a handful.</p><p></p><p>I think you might have mixed your ratio around with the former here. There was a vocal minority of idiots on both sides of the divide posting for no other reason than to stir up trouble. Fortunately, most of them are now elsewhere.</p><p></p><p>WotC for good or bad upset a lot of people I suppose.</p><p></p><p>I have not seen such a thread. Such shallowness is not something I would be painting the entire "portion of their customer base" that I was talking about though. Particularly the people who have expressed such views on this thread anyway.</p><p></p><p>I am assuming you are a 4e "supporter" here from posts you have made but unlike some, I will not make the co-assumption that you do not like 3.x (a mistake a lot of people make and which in fact highlights the counterpoint to your post). As a 4e supporter, you (and I as I am a DDI subscriber) have the entire weight of support from the industry's 800lb. gorilla supporting us. You are therefore not upset because you are happy with the direction that WotC has taken the game (and perhaps cannot see from the counter-perspective). Imagine though, that 4e rather than becoming more "gamist" that it become more "simulationist" and for whatever reason you hated what they did with the game you were enjoying and the "improvement" you were hoping for. Then you would find yourself as part of the crowd who was "upset". </p><p></p><p>Or perhaps they will further fracture their customer base with a glut of versions of the game (similar to the glut of settings that some believe hurt 2e so much). All fine and dandy if you like what they are doing but a great opportunity to be yet another customer jumping off the edition wagon if you don't. Personally, I think a 5e cast too soon will come close to killing D&D as a game (if not a brand).</p><p></p><p>And thank you for pointing out to me my lack of understanding of where the industry is going. Perhaps following the advice you gave to a previous poster may have been more appropriate.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Best Regards</p><p>Herremann the Wise</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herremann the Wise, post: 5450686, member: 11300"] Only a handful? Really? I suggest entertaining the thought that there was more than a handful. I think you might have mixed your ratio around with the former here. There was a vocal minority of idiots on both sides of the divide posting for no other reason than to stir up trouble. Fortunately, most of them are now elsewhere. WotC for good or bad upset a lot of people I suppose. I have not seen such a thread. Such shallowness is not something I would be painting the entire "portion of their customer base" that I was talking about though. Particularly the people who have expressed such views on this thread anyway. I am assuming you are a 4e "supporter" here from posts you have made but unlike some, I will not make the co-assumption that you do not like 3.x (a mistake a lot of people make and which in fact highlights the counterpoint to your post). As a 4e supporter, you (and I as I am a DDI subscriber) have the entire weight of support from the industry's 800lb. gorilla supporting us. You are therefore not upset because you are happy with the direction that WotC has taken the game (and perhaps cannot see from the counter-perspective). Imagine though, that 4e rather than becoming more "gamist" that it become more "simulationist" and for whatever reason you hated what they did with the game you were enjoying and the "improvement" you were hoping for. Then you would find yourself as part of the crowd who was "upset". Or perhaps they will further fracture their customer base with a glut of versions of the game (similar to the glut of settings that some believe hurt 2e so much). All fine and dandy if you like what they are doing but a great opportunity to be yet another customer jumping off the edition wagon if you don't. Personally, I think a 5e cast too soon will come close to killing D&D as a game (if not a brand). And thank you for pointing out to me my lack of understanding of where the industry is going. Perhaps following the advice you gave to a previous poster may have been more appropriate. Best Regards Herremann the Wise [/QUOTE]
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