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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arashi Ravenblade" data-source="post: 5450692" data-attributes="member: 15630">I cant believe these debates are still going on.Im not reading 5 pages of responses. But does anyone actually have any sales figures from 4e?Me im a 3.5 player all the way when it comes to D&D, though I plan to buy Pathfinder and adopt some of the rules for my homebrew campaign setting, like the sorcerer and the magic item creation rules.My personal opinion based on only my own experiences from living in three places since 4e came out and looking for gamers in all places, is that only one person ive ever met has liked it. And only because he said it was "easy." Easy to level up, challenges were easy, rules and builds were easy. All around easy. Now my personal opinion is that it hasnt been as popular because its simply not a quality game. Sure it looks nice, and i admit I own 5 4e books, and ive read them all. They arent good. Not nearly as good as some of WOTC more boring or 3.5 products. Course this is all my opinion. But since 4e came out, I know of two hobby shops that quit carrying D&D because they couldnt move the 4e products, and two others that quit selling roleplaying games altogether. But on the other side, I know of one that sells 4e very well and another than only sells 4e as a special request by customers. Like you have to ask them to order it for you. Either way. It could be as a whole people just dont think its a good product, but at the same time, think about this. The United States is in a recession, there is still very little recovery, or none if you live where I do, and people just dont have the money to spend. It could all just be timing. But unless we ask every gamer in the world or see some sales figures no one will ever know why 4e hasnt been the success that 3.5 was.</blockquote>

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